
How would one accept something as incontrovertibly true? (17)
I see a tree, I can feel it - must it then be true? I suppose it is rational to answer in the positive but what of those who suffer from mental illnesses in which their paranoia of e.g. someone following me (even though no one else is around). The stalker may not be true to me but it is very true for the person who suffers from paranoia. "I think therefore I am" - there is certainly truth to this, in proving one's existence but for the sake of argument, what of those humans who are in a coma but living. Is this person thinking? And if not, does this person exists? We know that this person physically exists but if someone does not have rational mind, does this render their existence futile? I have more questions than answers/comments for Descartes' text... I realize that Descartes does not rely entirely on our senses to perceive the world but to separate sensory experiences from mind from body does not make sense...
While I see the logic in Descartes' reasoning of categorizing items for analysis (17), I would argue that there are some things that logic cannot necessarily address. Spirituality is one of them. I suppose for some religious persons, 'faith' rather than 'logic' guides their spirituality. Also, some things just cannot be put into words or categorized. e.g. the beauty of nature cannot be logically reasoned.
Part III, third maxim (23): I agree with his idea that changing desires, in a Buddhist sense - in essence to mitigating desires and thus 'suffering'/stress but I disagree that one cannot change the world and that one can only change our thoughts. I understand that there are some things in nature that we just cannot change (and then there are things in nature that we ought not change but do anyway leading to environmental destruction) but I do think that change requires collective actions from all humans. We can change the world through our actions and thoughts. I think the Occupy Movement is a good example. The civil rights movement is another. Change may be small but incremental nonetheless and may take hundreds of years to achieve. Descartes' philosophy seem to hinder this change, at least in the way that I am reading it.. and I will have to strongly disagree with him on this issue.
I also disagree with Descartes' separation of body from soul/mind. As we learned from Professor Paul Crowe, this concept does not exist in Confucianism. My view is that our thinking mind relies heavily on our body. If we stop breathing even for a very short period of time and oxygen no longer flows to our brain, our brain will start to 'die' rapidly resulting in brain damage or death. Then, by this logic, our mind is very, very much tied to our body. It is much, much more than just a machine as Descartes puts it. The body and mind absolutely depend on each other. To privilege one over the other does not seem logical to me. At the same time, he claims a union of mind and body! Animals do not have a mind and are only a machine. We supposedly have a rational mind and thus can be hungry and feel pain because we have a mind and a (machine) body. Sorry but Descartes can't have his cake and eat it too.. This argument is not just jiving...
I also find his theory on the existence of God highly dubious. We are incomplete/inperfect, therefore there must be a perfect being out there whom we depend on (30). Bad things like sadness, doubt, etc. cannot exist from Him (30). Descartes himself said that he will only take as truth those things that he knows to be absolutely true. How does he absolutely know about God's existence? I find his logic flawed and his reasoning circular in this particular issue. He knows he exists because he has a thinking mind but on what basis other than faith does he know of God's existence? I am reminded of SFU's PHIL XX1 Critical Thinking course. While I do not disagree that good reasoning provides for a good methodology and analysis, I cannot see this applied in every single instance. The issue of God is definitely one of them. The course title is misleading to me. Logic does not always lead to good reasoning in all instances.
I strongly disagree with his theory on animals! Animals feel pain, joy, suffering, hunger, pain just like we do. Anyone who has spent time with animals on a personal level knows this. They are most definitely not machines as he theorizes. He seems to be stabbing himself in the foot. He said himself that he will take as truth only what he knows as incontrovertibly true. Well, how on earth does he know that they have no mind just because animals do not know language in the manner that humans do? Unfortunately, it is theories like Descartes' that support the inhumane treatment of animals and the destruction of nature (as something to be molded/conquered).
Afterclass thoughts: First of all, I really enjoyed Professor Lisa Shapiro's seminar! And I can appreciate the method professed by Descartes as an excellent way to organize in a logical sequence but again, while a useful method, it still nonetheless is not as universal as he professes it to be in this specific text (e.g. spirituality). I still have problems with his thesis on god. I think that if we replace soul/mind with energy and god with life, I can relate to his thesis a bit better:
the soul is immortal and does not need the body = energy cannot be created or destroyed. energy from death will regenerate into energy for new life.
god = the life force of nature that we do not really have the ability to explain.
If I interpret Descartes this way, I can appreciate his thesis a lot more. However, even which this 'newfound' appreciated, I still think that his rationale for the existence of god as very flawed. Just because we are incomplete/imperfect, there is no logic to say that there is some perfection out there, whatever we take "god" to mean.